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ButchCappel
30th March 2004, 17:02
This is a little something we do on our K9PS board to educate our members in the proper way to handle a dog in potentially threatening situations. Training the dog to protect is only half the job, the humans must make the decisions! Yet no one teaches that side of the team.

If you like it please join in, feel free to answer here, or go to our page www.k-9prosports.com and participate. If you enjoy it let me know & I will crosspost future training scenarios.

TACTICAL TRAINING FOR PP TEAMS.

One reason for the success of K9 divisions in police work is the work that has been done in training the human half of the team. The fundamentals needed for a protection or patrol dog are similar and pretty basic. The dog should be willing to engage a threatening person or felon, and be willing to disengage when told by the handler. Everything else is up to the human half of the team.

Currently there is no place civilians can go for education into the tactical aspects of using their PP dog, and without the tactical knowledge you are, at best a lawsuit target, and at worst dead!

Although there is no shortage of “opinions” on PP dog tactics, very few have any basis in fact or actual experience. K9 PRO SPORTS, as the worlds’ first and only, PP certifying association, would be irresponsible not to educate our members in the tactical use and decision making process of using their dogs in threatening situations. To that goal I will begin a “tactical Q&A” section on our message board.

These situations will be based on actual happenings and experiences, not supposition or theory. Any one knowing the most effective way to handle the situation is encouraged to share their ideas.

The job of a PP dog is to “defend” their partner in possibly physically threatening situations.

The job of a PP handler, is to make decisions and give commands, that first save the humans life and, second bring the dog home unharmed. These are the goals in all of the following situations.

TACTICAL SCENARIO #1

Scene: Average house in Suburbia, Wherever. House has garage and driveway on one end, bedrooms on the other, and living area centered.
Back yard is fenced for the dog. Fence is 6 ft. chain link, with a gate on either side of the house to access the backyard. Front yard is not fenced.

Situation: Returning from vacation is Mr. & Ms. Average, with 1.5 children, & one PP trained dog. As they approach their house, husband says “Someone left a light on in the living room.”
As they pull into the driveway the light suddenly turns off!!??

The rest is up to you! Remember your job is to first keep the humans safe and 2cd bring the dog home unharmed.

eSPO
31st March 2004, 13:53
Do I have a gun and a cell phone ?

josebrwn
31st March 2004, 14:28
The dog is just a deterrent. I would sit in the car with the engine running and call the police on the cell phone. Or walk down the block, knock at a neighbor's door and call the police. Or drive down to the quickee mart, use the pay phone, and call the police.

Virtues
31st March 2004, 18:46
I would do exactly what Joe said.

slamm
2nd April 2004, 23:18
What I would do is not legal, so I won't waste anyone's time.

I just spent almost two hours talking with the Jonesboro, AR animal control people. I just found out that:

A. If someone is tresspassing (inside my 5 foot chain link fence) and they get bit, I can get sued.
B. If someone is abducting my 3.5 year old little girl from our fenced, front yard and my dogs wreck the bad person, I can get sued.
C. If someone is trying to steal supplies out of one the the trucks which has $1,000's of dollars worth of tools and supplies in them and they get wrecked, I get sued.
D. If my neighbor (who doesn't like my dogs) wants to really, really get me (because he A. is scared to death of my dogs and B. says, I quoted, "all dogs with cropped ears are viscous"), he could just agitate the dogs and then stick his arm over the fence whereupon, he would get bit and then, you guessed it, he can just sue the crap out of me.

If this is what city life is like, I want to go back home.

Welcome to the big world,

Sam

josebrwn
2nd April 2004, 23:40
LOL, this is too funny! Hey Sam, back in the mid 1980's or so I was driving across country and went through the not-so-great state of Pennsylvania. They had a 55 mph speed limit at the time and BIG signs that read:

SPEEDING FINES:

56-60 MPH = $100
61-70 MPH = $110
> 70 MPH = $120

The way I figured it was, If I drove 56 mph in Pennsylvania, I COULD get a ticket for $100. But if I drove 90 MPH or faster, it was just $20 more. Wow, what a savings! For only $20 more I can drive AS FAST AS I WANT TO. I stood on the throttle in my little Toyota and crossed the entire state of Pennsylvania in under three hours.

Man that same kidnapper could probably sue you if he tripped over a rake. Might as well get your money's worth. But check in to the local judicial system. Is the city bloated with ultra-liberal bleeding heart PETA members, or are they good old boy Republicans who call a spade a spade? Good thing to know about where you live...

slamm
3rd April 2004, 02:48
Joe in all true I was a slight bit emotional and just pissed off that these animal control officers said that I could be sued (and they would win) if some reaches over my fence and gets bit. Because, this neighbor was telling them that my dogs were loose, which was a bald face lie, it's chain link fence in perfect condition and it's 5 feet tall (In all honesty, I'd be a little proud if they could jump it, LOL) and the dogs don't even try to get out. I just see this idiot as being a future problem for my dogs, which will be a problem for me, which in turn will be a problem for him it's a viscious cycle. I don't know, I'm just pissed off.
On the good side the people at the Vet's office really liked them all, had to change my rabies tags over from Il to Ar (the animal control officers said that the IL tags weren't any good down here, but they were happy when I went in the house and got the reciepts and the number to the vet that did the shots). And get this ISIS was even heeling and sitting very crisply, which everyone at the Vets office commented on.

Somewhat distressed,

Sam