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presagirls
19th March 2003, 22:16
Espo, how slick can it be? Why did a couple pages of discussions about untested litters get deleted? A question was simply asked and could have been simply answered. I really appreciate your last shot at me (good tactic to avoid the issues that were being discussed): :bite:

"the only posts that you ever post here are questioning people with litters on the ground and ASSUMING things that you are totally ignorant about . We all know that you have pups on the ground and
people could assume that you are only here to protect your territory.
I have heard you speak with conviction of things that you know zero about. Cathy you get two scoops of poop. "

First of all I was not assuming anything about the litter in question, I ASKED.

Second, I don't need to come to your forum to "protect my territory." All my pups are now sold; just waiting for payment on one girl.

Third, and what do I speak with conviction that I know zero about??

The image is getting clearer and clearer........................................... ....

Paolo Consolandi
19th March 2003, 23:16
Espo just locked the post that was going to degenerate.
For what concern your personal problems, I would suggest you to solve that with Private Messages or Emails.

thanks for understanding

presagirls
20th March 2003, 01:36
Sorry Paulo if you did not read the entire thread but quite a bit was deleted; not just locked. It was a question on a public forum, nothing personal or nasty, simply a question that couldn't or wouldn't be answered. All the resulting BS was answer enough. Unfortunately it gives the public the message that the UPPCC and El Presa Forum really don't try to encourage breeders to do it RIGHT since this has been "swept under the carpet again"....sounds very familiar doesn't it Tommy, Espo, SS, whoever else doesn't check hips BEFORE breeding and now Pacecar....Just waiting for all the rest :toomad: :toomad: :toomad: :toomad:

azespo42
20th March 2003, 07:06
The general public can see how pathetic it is that after being imported to the US in the eighties, the Presa Canario has so few dogs on record on the OFA database. As usual you assume much. Take a look at the database in one year from today and you will see our impact on the breed,if you want to contribute here in a positive way,you are welcome,if all you do is bag on us you will be asked not to participate here. I will not have this forum degenerate into a circus,or be used as a forum for you to question our motives and call us names. Time will tell how wrong your characterizations and assumptions are.